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How much protein can you absorb at a sitting?
How much protein can you absorb at a sitting?
So how much protein can you absorb at a single sitting. Can you absorb everything you need in one sitting, two sittings, six sittings or somewhere in between.
I know everywhere you see this question you see one of two possible answers:
1. 30-40g of protein at a sitting, maybe a bit more if you're huuuuge
2. It depends on how big you are, after all if Jay Cutler can eat 600g of protein a day, he must be having up to 100g per sitting right?
Ok so I've 2 questions to run past you all. Firstly how much protein do you aim for at a sitting and secondly, how many protein meals do you try to eat/drink in a day?
Re: How much protein can you absorb at a sitting?
I've always heard of that 30-40g protein per sitting as well but never sure theres any evidence behind it whatsover.
Being only 160lbs i try and aim for around 180g or so and for me eating 6times a day i go for 30g protein a sitting. I basically wont have any food without a decent amount of protein in. 30g seems to me to be a decent amount and a relatively easy target to hit for each meal. Sometimes i buy ready made sandwiches and do look a lot at the protein content - some are only around 18g so that pack is a no for me! Plus i absolutely love meat so another excuse for me too eat more and have it every meal. now and then i pig out and have an entire chicken and around 150g of protein with it - but even after this i will have my usual protein with every meal after it
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Re: How much protein can you absorb at a sitting?
As far as I am aware there is no limit to how much protein you can absorb in one sitting as a larger meal will just take longer to digest and any additional protein the body doesn't require will be used for energy
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Re: How much protein can you absorb at a sitting?
i aim for around 30 to 40 grams of protein every 3 hours.Alot of people have way to much like if you have for instance 50 grams or more then there's a very high chance at least 15 grams is wasted .personally unless you are 21 stone ripped like a pro bodybuilder you can get away with only having 30 grams of protein for muscle development.
My daily routine consists of
7.30 = 30grams
10.30 = 30grams
1 0clock ish 40grams
3 oclock 40 grams
6 oclock = 30 grams
9 oclock = 40 grams
and before bed 30 grams(casein)
240 grams of protein for me is perfect and any more my stomachs very gassy and uncomfortable.
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Re: How much protein can you absorb at a sitting?
yeh 30-40 it perfect for the average person obviously the bigger you are the more you will need.again i will aim for around 240 within about 7 meals gettin approx 35g per meal.
[b]Mike Bundy-Bodyactive Bolton
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Re: How much protein can you absorb at a sitting?
I usually try and get a min of 30g's every 2-3 hours but like Alpha my morning breakfast is more like 50-60g's and with a night time meal I'd think nothing of eating two chichen breasts with other food (obviously containing some protein) so again more than likely around the 60g marker. I would aim for 30-40g's but wouldn't worry too much if your eating more as said the pro bb's are prob eating 100g's a sitting (although there ability to utualise protein synthesis might be better than mosts..).
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Re: How much protein can you absorb at a sitting?
You can digest as much as you like. Here's Alan Aragon on the matter: http://www.bodyactive-nation.co.uk/Arti … le-serving
What is optimal however to maximise protein synthesis pertinent to meal frequency is very much under scrutiny. Layne Norton's findings are of particular interest to bodybuilders and athletes looking to gain muscle. I believe this is the closest to the truth so far we have of knowing for those not using anabolic substances: http://www.abcbodybuilding.com/protein_ … quency.pdf
For maximal muscle growth, I've always recommended 4-5 meals ideally spaced around 4 hours apart throughout the day. I also believe fasting has many alternative benefits for fat loss and physique enhancement.
I think for the majority of people, the stereotypical high meal frequencies are actually by far the worst recommended and the most responsible for people failing and not dealing with the nutritional side of things well enough. It's almost life-consuming to most individuals to eat like that and I do sympathise with them a lot when they get told this is the only way...
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Re: How much protein can you absorb at a sitting?
Adam wrote:
You can digest as much as you like.
this cant be true its pretty common and i think most will agree we all know if we have had too much cos it just comes out the other end. you could possible say take in as much as you can so that your body will potentially absorb the maximum it can but you still will waste allot ad be taking very frequent trips to the toilet.
i know you say about fasting to help lose weight and you will but as soon as you try to eat normal again you will gain the weight back cos your'e body will store it. i've seen it many times working in the shop people crash diet and do look good then months later back to where they was due to eating normal again.
i dont think you could find any top bodybuilder who would take this approach on dieting because potentially would be susceptible to lose muscle.
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Re: How much protein can you absorb at a sitting?
Bundy wrote:
this cant be true its pretty common and i think most will agree we all know if we have had too much cos it just comes out the other end.
If this was the case then no one would get fat all excess calories would be expelled from the body, your body won't waste protein it will use what it needs for protein synthesis etc and what is left over will float around the blood stream and be used for energy. The reason people mess up on crash diets is that a lot of initial weight loss on crash diets is water which is easily regained when the dieting stops, plus people tend to go back to their old eating habits after dieting
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Re: How much protein can you absorb at a sitting?
yeh well you will absorb a fair amount of fat if you take in excess of anything.but then that surely comes back to not being able to use all your taking in then so comes back to you can't eat as much protein as you want?
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Re: How much protein can you absorb at a sitting?
Ted, contrary to popular belief, you can absorb 200grams of protein in one sitting. It's what's optimal for muscle growth is what is the true debate between bodybuilders. We evolved by eating copious amounts of protein often in one sitting (most probably), so to think our bodies can only digest 30-35grams in one sitting every 2-3 hours is very naive of us and the human body deserves much more credit.
As for fasting just leading to muscle loss, I think these people beg to differ (they fast for 16 hours a day): http://www.leangains.com/search/label/Client%20results
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Re: How much protein can you absorb at a sitting?
Adam wrote:
Ted, contrary to popular belief, you can absorb 200grams of protein in one sitting.
Interesting point Adam. The key, as with most things in life is something called 'Marginal Utility', a phrase most common in economics, but equally appropriate to biology.
If you are hot and hungry and you get an ice cream, you might rate it 10 out of 10. If you have a second, you might again rate it 10 out of 10. If you have another, you might rate it 8/10, all the way down to the point of being sick at which point you rate it zero (or even less).
The lesson here is that although each one adds to the sum of enjoyment, each subsequent one adds less to the sum of your enjoyment.
You may remember many years ago when Whey protein was the undisputed king of proteins, until some research showed that the anticatabolic effects of casein may - over several hours - provide a better benefit to the muscle growth/recovery process. On the back of this CNP released Pro MR and Pro Peptide, which have been 'copied' by most brands today.
Part of the subsequent research done later showed that you 'probably' couldnt duplicate this effect by taking more frequent (like every 20 minutes), smaller servings of whey protein, in part because each subsequent feeding provided a decreasing utility to the body.
To increase the utilisation, some brands like Reflex and Optimum added pre and pro biotics to increase the intestinal processing capacity of increased protein feedings, thus increasing the utility the protein at subsequent feeds.
The essence of this is that there will be a level at which most, or close to all, of the protein in a meal is utilised. Beyond that point the level of utilisation will fall. So as an example if you eat 30g and 96% is utilised, the next 30g only48% is utilised, the next 30g only 24% is utilised and the next 30g only ...... and so on.
However, eating these servings of protein spaced more evenly, and each on an empty stomach, will probably equate to maximum utilisation at each meal.
In reality, no one knows what the actual decline in utility actually would be, and, given the efficiency of the human body, it may be so low as to be only a very small factor in planning protein consumption.
Re: How much protein can you absorb at a sitting?
The only thing I'm fairly convinced on Mike pertinent to research is that the common bodybuilding approach of insanely high frequencies of 7 upwards is in fact adverse to results as opposed to beneficial. I am fairly convinced based on what's been proven so far that for most people this will completely oversaturate the body's ability to utilise protein synthesis and peak highly, and as such I much prefer a 'peak and dip' approach of longer without protein, a lower meal frequency, but more satiating meals.
But inevitably there will be a ton of cofactors involved dependant on the individual which is why we never have one set answer.
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Re: How much protein can you absorb at a sitting?
Adam wrote:
Ted, contrary to popular belief, you can absorb 200grams of protein in one sitting. It's what's optimal for muscle growth is what is the true debate between bodybuilders
isn't that what this all about? why would you take in 200g if it isn't going to be used for maxium muscle growth when thats what were all on here for?
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Re: How much protein can you absorb at a sitting?
Yes, but somebody said it wasn't possible to absorb that amount when it is. I'm just saying that if somebody can't adhere to a frequent eating approach, then you can still eat your meals with a higher protein content to get the days necessary income, although the results may not be as great.
Also, on the topic of meal frequency, as Layne Norton says, the traditional high frequency approaches we are usually associated with and recommended may not be optimal. 4-5 meals per day is actually most likely to maximise hyperaminoacidemia more effectively than oversaturating the cells.
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Re: How much protein can you absorb at a sitting?
I think for me I try to take no less than 60g of protein in a meal 6 meals and then 3 shakes or two shakes and a naughty cheat meal of 25 chicken wings MMMMMMM I love chicken wings hahaha but I have trained my body to proccess that amount of protein I started by doing 25g of protein every meal for a few months then adding 5g of protein to every other meal then every meal and just realy worked my way up from there. This has taken about 4 years to build up tho it didnt happen over night.
Re: How much protein can you absorb at a sitting?
yeh ok your'e rite you can take in 200g of protein in one go but your body will not use anywhere near this for muscle growth so a complete pointless task and a waste of money. joe's got it spot on you can train your'e body to take in more but this doesn't happen over nite and joe takes in this much cos he's a unit lol. like i did say in my original post the average guy.
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